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LVM Nittin' It Up!: The Harrahs Challenge



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apollo
 Post subject: Re: LVM Nittin' It Up!: The Harrahs Challenge
PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 1:42 pm 
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LasVegasMichael wrote:
When you park on the 7th level of the Harrahs parking garage (incidentally, there is no 6th level, for some odd reason, Lucky 7!)...

Oh, sir, you ARE such a Harrah's newb. Of course there is a level 6. And 4! In fact, I usually park on one of these even levels. They're just sekret and hidden in dark, twisty passages that are not spoken of in polite society. That, or you just turn counterclockwise instead of clockwise as you drive east going from 3 to 5. I know... it's asking a lot, but it is the hidden path to parking nirvana.

6th floor is a lot like the 7th in terms of emptiness, except you get to park outta the sun in the summer, or within the warming confines of lots of concrete in the depths of what passes for winter. And I find the 6th floor to be walkable up the stairs from 2, while that extra flight to the 7th begins to make the old joints creak and moan a little. Consider the walk from 2 to 6 to be the first qualifying event in the forthcoming first ever Nitlympics competition.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 2:14 pm 
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[quote=
I was getting ready to leave when a dealer named Lucky rotated into the table. Lucky almost immediately asked me to remove the electronics from the felt.= [/quote]


Ah,yes, Lucky. This is the same dealer who told me, when I picked up the dealer button and spun it on it's end on the table that, " sir, that is a tool not a toy". The guy is a barrel of laughs. Seems kind of nittish in his own right.

Keep up the good work Mike.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 2:33 pm 
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Nit was mentioned on this thread for at least 10,000 times but I have a very important question,




How many Nits does it take to change a light bulb?, Please dont answer at the same time, one at time, lets be orderly here people. :wink:

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:00 pm 
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I put in about 50 hours at Harrah's before the first time I was asked to remove my cigarettes from the table. Forget who it was that asked me though... might have been Lucky. I was a little surprised that it had taken that long to be informed of the "rule"... but it didn't really bother me. And if you're gonna get booted from a room... You could have it be for something better than that! Although I must say that sometimes I agree... you have to make a stand. I've been politely asked/escorted from casinos on 5 lovely occasions. In all of them it was for making a stand (or as others may say.... "big deal") over issues that I feel were poorly handled. Not once did I swear or raise my voice. You lose all credibility once you do. Yet security was called in 4 of the 5 instances. I still strongly maintain and honestly believe that I was in the right in all 5 instances. You know what Mike?.... maybe it's time you finally got the boot from a card room/casino.... but you know... it really doesn't make for much of a story unless security is called. Would love to be there for your first time!


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apollo
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 3:04 am 
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Frend wrote:
Ah,yes, Lucky. This is the same dealer who told me, when I picked up the dealer button and spun it on it's end on the table that, " sir, that is a tool not a toy". The guy is a barrel of laughs. Seems kind of nittish in his own right.
"Tool not a toy" is a standard Lucky line. He is definitely an acquired taste and you either catch on and appreciate him (at least a little) or you never do and just find him annoying. And he has the unfortunate tendency to be instantly annoying to a few people (typically high testosterone alpha males) which can make for table fireworks. I think Lucky is the only dealer I've ever seen a player posture up to and invite outside to settle things in the middle of a hand. Give him time to grow on you.

But it's not fair to single him out in the discussion about cell phones or other electronics on the table. If there is such a rule in the room, it is NEVER wrong for the dealer to enforce it. It's wrong for the room to have 98% unenforced rules. And that is a common complaint I hear from many dealers (not just in Harrah's). Three dealers before them have ignored the rules (typically the language rule or the no-reading rule or the no cell phones rule or the no-large-items-on-the-felt rule--basically those rules that don't really impact play and do impact the dealer's tokes when they enforce them) and when they sit down and try to enforce it like they're supposed to they're made into the bad guy. SOOO not fair.

If you're going to get tossed out of Harrah's, make it for something better than Lucky enforcing Leo's rules (and many of "Leo's rules" are not Leo's...he ain't the sole overlord).


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I'll stick up for Lucky's character here.
Not wanting to get involved in the ipod on/off the table debate.

Lucky dealt quite a few times when I played at Harrahs on my last visit and I found him pleasant and quite entertaining at the table.
OK you could be a bit straight laced and say it's not a dealer's job to be entertaining, but I don't mind.

I need to self reflect as this may mean I'm not the testerone charged alpha male I thought I was :?


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LasVegasMichael
 Post subject: Re: LVM Nittin' It Up!: The Harrahs Challenge
PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:35 am 
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Played last night for about 3 hours. It was an entertaining session. The room was bustling, with upwards of 4 NL games going and a deep 3/6 game, with a healthy list. At my table there was only 1 real nit (aside from myself), who I happen to be friendly with, and hold no ill will toward. Some nits are unbearable, but this is one of the good guys.

I had a feeling that it would be a night to be rebellious. It started out with a simple means of protest:

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Oh yeah. I parked my Cadillac Deville DHS Boat into the COMPACT CARS ONLY space. Bring it!

The Electronics Situation

Just to get something clear right up front: Lucky in an entertaining dealer that the players enjoy having at the table. He is mechanically sound, and though he does seem to talk a bit much, he has solid game control. Overall, I think he is good for the Harrahs game, and my decision to take a stand has nothing to do with him personally. It is just an rules issue that I feel is moot and wanted to take a stand against it (also, because I had nothing better to do).

Here is the spoiler: I was NOT asked to leave. In fact, all staff involved handled the situation with utmost professionalism, especially considering the odd situation that it was.

I had been playing for about 2.5 hours when it was about to be Lucky's down. Up until this point, my phone and ipod were both alongside my chips, as they always are. Nobody has said anything up until this point. A couple other players also have their personal electronics on the table as well. Eric is teasing me a bit throughout the night, as he reads this blog, and is awaiting the built up issue.

Within 1 hand of Lucky taking a seat in the game, he politely askes me to remove my things from the felt. I respond: "I appreciate you asking, and thank you for doing do, but unfortunately, I must decline."

Lucky is taken a bit aback, and says "What if I say please?". I chuckle, and respond "Thank you for asking, and I understand completely, but about this, I must say no. If you feel compelled to call the floor, as I completely understand that you are just doing your job, I would have no problem with that."

He continued to deal the next hand, and then subsequently called the floor, which happened to be John.

John came over, and Lucky spoke quietly into his ear, and John repeated the request, to which I politely declined again. He came over and talked to me privately, and I explained my case, speaking the exact truth, whilst maintaining utmost politeness and composure.

John said that he understood, and since I do not slow down the game, it will not be a problem. He let Lucky know, and that was it.

I left shortly afterwards, clearing $100 for the session. I tipped Lucky an extra couple of bucks when I got up, and reiterated that I hold no ill will toward him whatsoever, but I that I had to take a stand. I also tipped John on my way out, and called it a night around 09:45PM.

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The game was quite entertaining, actually. Drunk players, bad players, fun players, dealers off the clock (Jennifer and Brenda). It was probably one of the most entertaining tables I had been at for a while.

I got stuck right away by losing in a bad beat situation, but was able to climb back up to even, then I was able to bluff my way into a few small pots, and ended up clearing a hundred in profit before heading home.

Tonight will be an evening affair. I plan on getting there around 4-5PM and playing until 7 or 8 or later.

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Yappy Dave
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 6:05 pm 
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I sure hope somebody smashes in the back of your car (as well as anybody else parking monsterous vehicles in compact car spaces.) This blows my top when I see people park these huge autos in a space designed for a small car. To think you are better than the overall flow of the parking garage is not only selfish but deserving of having your tires slashed.

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Yappy Dave
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LasVegasMichael wrote:
Here is the spoiler: I was NOT asked to leave.


I wish two things.

a) I had not read another word of your post
b) You wouldn't ruin the build-up and release issue with a spoiler.

You're like a child who must peak at his presents and rewrap them prior to Christmas. A man who fires his gun, just because he has one. LVM, you couldn't have ruined this post anymore than you did. I'm reporting you.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 6:50 pm 
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1 vote for rebellion,those small cars are deathe traps anyway!

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