Not sure if this is the right thread for this question but here it goes anyways.
I have a question about the MGM. I'm coming out to Vegas in a few weeks (for the first round of the NCAA) and from what I've read the MGM seems like it has a lot of soft games. Well my question is, if the room is full of drunks/tourists/beginners then why aren't more locals/good players playing here to clean up? I only ask cause I'm from Detroit, where a 1/2 NL game has a good mix of regulars and some guys giving casino poker a try, so I'm use to playing up against both. So I guess I'm asking are there enough soft 1/2 NL games to get into or will I be up against mostly locals? If there are going to be more good players then I'll just check out the Venetian or the Wynn. Also are there many TVs at the MGM since I'm going to need to keep one eye on the games. Thanks for any advice.
There are a fair amount of locals that play the soft games. Of course, if I were a local, heading to the MGM Grand to make some money can be a little annoying time and time again. I mean it's a huge place, it's at a busy intersection on the strip, and there are some donks that will get lucky and win a two outer. Best time for the most drunk tourists is after 8pm. I've been there at that time and there are people just going in left and right with crap.
As for TVs, there's 10 or so with the sportbook being a few feet away.
also, it's pretty easy to spot the rocks. generally, they're pretty chummy with the dealers, and have that distinctive "vegas" smell. You know the smell, 2 day old cocktail sauce and $0.99 hot dogs. MMM..
But as has been said many times before on this forum, just because one is a local, doesn't necessarily make them good.
The MGM overall seems to have pretty friendly games, and draws celebs occasionally (I played last time with one of the Dancing With the Stars dancers (the one who got to dance with Stacy Keibler... lucky bastard)), and I've spotted Moneymaker there at least once.
Joined: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:53 pm Posts: 605 Location: Naperville, IL
I am heading out in April for three days of cards. From earlier posts it appears that the best time to hit the poker rooms is after 8:00 pm. Is that mainly becuase more people are lubricated or becuase the locals have headed home? I don't care about the locals as I play in very competitive games in Chicago but I am curious for the reasoning.
Also, with regards to MGM tournaments how is the general skill level and flow of those games. I like to play the occasional tourney but not if they are full of TV junkies looking to recreate the final table from the WSOP.
Joined: Sat Nov 18, 2006 11:26 pm Posts: 943 Location: Phoenix
Both of those rooms are great action for $1/2 NL. The MGM will be busier and will have more tables going. And there will be plenty of fish swimming. The Excal might only have one game going late at night, but it's the softest competition I've seen anywhere.
I also really liked the room at Mandalay Bay. It's about a 15 minute walk through the Luxor Casino and shopping area. But many on here have expressed thier displeasure in the room.
Joined: Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:16 am Posts: 8587 Location: 11.5 Miles from the Strip
I have visited the room in the past, but I do not play there.
There are many reasons why I do not like the MGM room.
1. Too inconvenient for a local. I come from the Northwest, and MGM is proably the most pain in the ass poker room to get to, next to Aladdin. Parking/valet is a pain, and once you get inside, you need to trek through the whole damn casino. I like a place where valet is quick, easy, and guarnateed, and there is a relatively short walk to the poker room. I play short sessions of 2-3 hours most of the time, so I am looking for a place that is uber convenient and easy to get in and out of. MGM is not it.
2. Their NL game has a $200 max. Since they spread 1/2 and 2/5, the 2/5 has a $500 max and better players overall. Their 1/2 game may be very soft, but with a low $200 max, many people buy in short, for $100, so the money on the table is often low overall.
3. It is a very noisy poker room. The noise from Centerfuge is fine if your're a 21 year old, but for me, it just gives me a headache.
4. Nitty complaint: I don't like tables with racetracks.
5. I like playing with the mid 30s and older crowd. MGM is a lot of early 20s punks. True, they are usually horrendous players, but I play recreationally for fun and profit, so I look for places to have a good time, with the average Soccer Mom or Dad, not their kids.
There are some of the reasons why I personally don't care for MGM. Of course, that is just me, and your mileage will vary.
Presently, I have been playing at TI. Here is how TI compares when related to the above points:
At TI, conversely, as an example:
1. Very easy to get in and out of. I valet there, and they have never once refused to park my car. Self parking leads directly to the poker room as well. Coming from the NW, it is very easy to get to overall from Racho/Highland/Industrial/and crossing over Spring Mountain.
2. TI's lowest and only NL is 1/3 with a $500 max. There is no lower game, so it is the best and softest seats available. They rarely spread 2/5, so all the fish end up at the same 1/3NL table as me. Many buy in for $100-300, so there is more money on the table in general.
3. TI pipes in good 80s/90s music. It is away from the slots and nowhere near a bar or lounge, so you hear poker and music only, with no big distractions at all.
4. No racetracks.
5. Mid 30s and older is TI's base.
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Joined: Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:16 am Posts: 394 Location: Chatsworth, CA
Too inconvenient for a local. I come from the Northwest, and MGM is proably the most pain in the ass poker room to get to, next to Aladdin. Parking/valet is a pain, and once you get inside, you need to trek through the whole damn casino.
I've heard it suggested to valet at the Tropicana and just walk across the overpass to the MGM. You enter right by the poker room. Just make sure you actually enter the Trop when you arrive and leave through the doors a bit to the right of the valet entrance.