Joined: Fri May 25, 2007 6:33 am Posts: 906 Location: Owings Mills, Maryland
I don't like the three bet. What hand would we be representing? Even AA is usually going to raise on the button.
BentonBlakeman wrote:
If the straddler is a thinking player he should 4 bet us all day with ATC. If the opponents play only their hand, then i reall ylike the idea of this play bc our range doesnt even matter to them.
Maybe you guys play against smarter opponents then I do. I wouldn't be surprised if you did. But, I rarely see 4 bets and when I do its never a bluff.
If we let the straddler make his expected raise, and he gets called by one or more limpers, a three bet will likely be called by all players. This would leave us in a huge pot multi-way with a marginal hand. If no limpers call, unless the three bet is pretty large, I think the straddler is going to call with ATC hoping to hit the flop.
Personally I like your raise, except it was too small in my opinion. I love punishing limpers when I have the button. I think after the callers I would have raised to 12-15 trying to get it heads up or 3 way with position. If that happened I would have bet the flop, bet the turn (folding to a raise), and checked back the river.
Yes, count me in as a second for Benton's line! However, is it me or is there an elephant in the room? Why are you playing this hand to begin with? Okay, you have position - but you're just asking for major trouble with this type of hand. Apparently, there are calling stations and an aggro-straddler. Why not just wait for 2 minutes and watch until the next hand? The flop you got was probably one of the best that you could hope for, and still there are all these questions. Pre-flop fold and save your chips for the future in our essentially never-ending game.
Yes, count me in as a second for Benton's line! However, is it me or is there an elephant in the room? Why are you playing this hand to begin with? Okay, you have position - but you're just asking for major trouble with this type of hand. Apparently, there are calling stations and an aggro-straddler. Why not just wait for 2 minutes and watch until the next hand? The flop you got was probably one of the best that you could hope for, and still there are all these questions. Pre-flop fold and save your chips for the future in our essentially never-ending game.
That's a decent point, but if you are a good post flop player this is definitely a +EV spot to punish limpers and drop the hammer on them. A suited King here definitely warrants a raise in this spot if you're confident in your post flop play.
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