Are there 1/2 1/3 Grinders who try to live off it? 2/5 Q?

AdRock · **Posted:** Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:22 pm

Pokerdogg wrote:

cneat2351 wrote:

Pokerdogg do you mean per/100 or per hour? If its per hour thats crazy and I can't believe its sustainable unless of course your just blessed with a lifelong heater.

It is per hour, since we are talking about live poker here. I don't think it is all that crazy, this is from my records for the past several years, playing pretty much full time.

There are others that reported similar win rates on here in the past. One of the best player at my local casino had told me his win rate, which is substantially higher. Of course I can't verify that.

I play recreationally, but from what I've heard $20-$25/hr playing 1/2 and 1/3 is sustainable. You have to have good room and table selection though. Can probably bump that if you go wild on promos. I believe Pokerdogg's number.

Are in you BC? Which casino(s) do you like to play at? I was up there a few months ago to check it out and will be back sometime soon.

Pokerdogg · **Joined:** Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:12 pm **Posts:** 3175

cneat2351 wrote:

Hmmm. then you must be talking big blinds. not big bets. that is still incredible.

When we talk about no limit, big bets is not applicable. Yes, I was talking about big blinds.

AdRock wrote:

I play recreationally, but from what I've heard $20-$25/hr playing 1/2 and 1/3 is sustainable. You have to have good room and table selection though. Can probably bump that if you go wild on promos. I believe Pokerdogg's number.

Are in you BC? Which casino(s) do you like to play at? I was up there a few months ago to check it out and will be back sometime soon.

Yes, I'm in BC, in the rural area outside of Vancouver. I mostly play at Cascades (in Langley), but sometimes play at Riverrock, Edgewater or Boulevard.

Cascades recently added a prize wheel, you get to spin if you have quads or better. I don't include that in my win rate though. And there are no comps in BC casinos.

If you come up again, may be we can play some poker together.

miamicane · **Posted:** Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:06 am

TBC does it, even with his massive VBJ leaks

mr_railbird · **Joined:** Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:04 pm **Posts:** 521

It all depends on what your expenses are, how disciplined you are at not going on tilt, playing enough hours, and managing your money well. Pretty much, it's like treating it as a small business.

Grinding out $1-2/3nl can get you $25/hr so playing 40hrs a week will be $1000 a week. The problem is that if you log in 40/hrs a week and table select, you will have some downtime moving between casinos, waiting on a list (if you switch rooms during peak hours), and commuting to and from work. So while you are "clocking" 40 hours you are spending more time at it.

If you can live off of this (after paying taxes) then it's definitely possible. Living off of $2/5nl is more realistic and more fun.

UncleRuckus · **Joined:** Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:30 pm **Posts:** 10

You know..... I played poker in LV everyday of my life from 2007-early 2011. And the only guys who I ever met who actually make a good living from playing 1/2 NL is Ian M. who posts as "Ian" on this board, and a guy named Tim who used to live behind Terrible's.
I literally have met and personally know just about all of all the 1-2NL-2/5NL grinders in LV. The majority of them are actually posers, who exaggerate or lie about their wins.
It's very difficult to play 1/2NL poker for a living. A lot of 1/2NL pros don't have cars(cause they can't afford them). They live very cheap: they don't have nice possessions or clothes, and don't eat out often due to financial problems. I don't know one 1/2NL player who has kids or a wife. When a medical emergency comes along, due to being uninsured it can literally wipe you out.
Believe it or not, poker itself is physically dangerous as well...recently, I actually developed carpel tunnel syndrome and herniated a disk. I took over 8 months off poker on account of that.

cneat2351 · **Joined:** Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:34 pm **Posts:** 59

Thanks I think more people should here that kind of stuff

Joey90210 · **Joined:** Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:48 pm **Posts:** 28

I thought it wasn't possible but from what i read from a few others here, there certainly are. If thats the case, how much can you really make at it? Some ppl say 1/2 is possible but i find that to be very hard.

Rocketpoker92 · **Joined:** Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:51 pm **Posts:** 95

I know someone that grinds out at the $1/$2 game in Las Vegas, and he claims to earn over $60,000 last year, which I truly believe him because he is a very, very good poker player. He doesn't think he needs to play $2/$5 when he can make as much at a $1/$2.

He is retired and a widower, so he plays almost everyday about 10 hours/day. Of the sessions that I have played at his table, I have never seen him loses. The dealers also told me that he is a consistent winner. While all of the dealers know him well, I have a feeling that when he is involved in a big pot, they prefer someone else to win it just because of the tips, as I have never seen him tip more than $2 regardless of the pot size.

It is very possible for it to happen. Just like penny stocks, people think you can't become millionaires investing in them, but for some people, they have been paid off handsomely for their researches and taking risks.

As for me, I have made on average of $300-$700/month playing $1/$2 NL; therefore, I cannot say that it is good enough for me to live off it.

I have a full-time job with full health benefits for $20/biweekly and 4 weeks of PTO/year. I play about 20-30 hours/week. Mostly as entertainment. I don't buy in a lot--just having a good time and lucky enough to be on the winning side.

However, I know more $1/$2 NL players that are losing than winning. Most of them do not have the bankroll to support their game, and some of them do play "scared" when their bankroll is near "zero," which means that they often given up on winning hands against aggressions--something that they wouldn't have done when their bankroll was larger.

Regardless of whatever it is in life, someone manages to live off with whatever he/she is doing--maybe not luxuriously, but manage to live to another day.

Best of luck to you!

LocalDude · **Posted:** Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:51 pm

Joey90210 wrote:

I thought it wasn't possible but from what i read from a few others here, there certainly are. If thats the case, how much can you really make at it? Some ppl say 1/2 is possible but i find that to be very hard.

I play solely 1/2 NL and, as previous posters have stated, I think it would be possible to make a living at 1/2 NL here in Vegas. That is, if you think $40,000 a year (50 weeks times 40 hours a week times $20 an hour) -- with no benefits!! -- is a living.

I keep a spreadsheet of every session I play. My average winrate since last July (after tips but not including taxes

) is $21.60 an hour, or just over 10.5 bb an hour. I not a great player, just a basic TAG ABC player. On rare occasions, I will play the other player and not my own hand, but mostly I play by the book. If you are a really good player, you could probably beat the 1/2 game at a higher rate than I do.

On the other hand, I only average about 10 hours a week of poker -- not 40 hours a week. I pick when I play (usually only Friday, Saturday, and Sunday nights) and where I play (thank you AVP!!!). If I had to play on nonweekend nights, I am sure my average winrate would drop due to a dearth of tourist players on the weekdays. And even on weekend nights I am cognizant of who is at my table, and will seek a table change right away if I can't identify any fish.

professorm · **Joined:** Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:53 pm **Posts:** 1

localdude, where do typically play?

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