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NL 1/2: AK UTG vs TAG Villain



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assenede
 Post subject: NL 1/2: AK UTG vs TAG Villain
PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:59 am 
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Here's a hand I played last week at the Excalibur and which I'd like to post for review.
Hero has been at the table for 3-4 hours and has worked his way up from his original $200 to about $450 and back down to $330. He has shown a few moves and got caught at one of them, while getting away with the other. The table is filled with a few low stacked fish and a few grinders, who are not in the hand, except for two villains. V2 (C/O) is a local grinder, who had bought in for the max and lost a few hands down to about $120, and as a result topped up back to $300 to maximize his stack. Since his top-up an hour earlier, he's played only two hands, working his stack back up to about $360. V1 (SB) is a relatively short-stacked ($110) moderate player, who has been seen to lay it down easily.

On to the hand.
Hero picks up [Ah] [Kh] UTG.
V1 (SB) makes it $8 to go.
H (UTG) calls $8 and it folds to V2 (Cutoff), who raises to $17.
V2 folds. Hero calls the $17.
At this point there is $43 in the pot before rake.

Flop comes down:
[Ts] [9c] [7h]

Hero (UTG) is first to act.
Hero ? ....

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 Post subject: Re: NL 1/2: AK UTG vs TAG Villain
PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:09 am 
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The preflop action doesn't make sense. You have the action starting with the SB???? Was there a button straddle or something? You also have V2 3-betting and then folding.

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 Post subject: Re: NL 1/2: AK UTG vs TAG Villain
PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:38 pm 
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Must be a button straddle.

I think assende means that V1 raised to $8 and then folded when it came back to him. Why he did that is a mystery to me. Pot at that time contained $43 and it cost V1 $9 to call. You call with ATC there, especially a hand that was worthy of a raise to begin with.

First thing, what is the read on the local? Have you seen him minraise before? Most players in 1-2 minraise with a really big hand since they want their opponents in the pot with them. But a local grinder probably knows that you need to get a lot of money in preflop with a big pair, so I am a little confused with his minraise.

That said, you check and fold when V2 bets. You have just Ace-high and runner-runner draws. You aren't certain that you even have 6 outs on the turn. It would take a very good read on the local to float here and try and take the pot away on a later street. If you bet here, V2 with a big pair will likely raise you, so save your money for a better situation.


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 Post subject: Re: NL 1/2: AK UTG vs TAG Villain
PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:58 am 
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i think this one needs to be reposted before anyone can really comment (though I agree with illini on the supposed post flop).

I'm also curious in general as to why he is playing AK so slow preflop (once I figure out what the actual action was).

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:11 am 
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I posted the hand using my notes. Something not right here.
I'll get my notebook and repost ...

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assenede
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:20 am 
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Sorry for the mess.

Ok, I remember that the relative positions were correct.
V1 was in EP, H was in MP and V2 in LP.
Preflop it went bet 8 V1, call 8 H, raise 17 V2, v1 folds to raise.
Flop was heads up with 43 in it.
H first to act heads up on a T 9 7 rainbow flop.

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Ah. In that case I think its a standard fold per illini

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Standard check fold on the flop but would have been a great spot to flat the 8 pre flop from the utg raiser, then back raise the late position players 3bet. You hold blockers with the A and K, so it's unlikely he has AA or KK, and you can credibly represent either of those as it's common to flat UTG raises with these hands. Plus if he has TT-QQ and just calls, and you bet the flop and shove turn he'll likely fold most of his range by then.

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Flop action went as follows :

Hero checked, V bet 30.
Hero called the 30.

Turn card: [Kd]

Hero .... ?

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Check/call. If he checks behind vaue bet river

His hand is either missed overcards or a pocket pair (or same hand). So u are either way ahead or way behind

This is prob with calling flop. Still not even a good spot when u hita K.

IF u bet u fold out all the hands u beat. And I am notas worried about that board hutting a draw due to his 3bet.

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