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How come some games are more popular than others? The 2/4 and 3/6 games are popular for obvious reasons, but I wonder about higher stakes. I've always wondered why there's not a 5/10 LHE game anywhere, and it did bug me that 6/12 and 8/16 games were hard to find at times. They're a happy medium for those who don't like the 2/4 and 3/6 crapshoots, but aren't as expensive as 10/20 and 15/30.
How come some games are more popular than others? The 2/4 and 3/6 games are popular for obvious reasons, but I wonder about higher stakes. I've always wondered why there's not a 5/10 LHE game anywhere, and it did bug me that 6/12 and 8/16 games were hard to find at times. They're a happy medium for those who don't like the 2/4 and 3/6 crapshoots, but aren't as expensive as 10/20 and 15/30.
$5/$10 used to be popular back east. Now the conventional wisdom is that games that require more chips to be bet drive the action (bigger pots bigger action) so a $5/$10 game is 1 chip 2 chip, but $8 is 4 chips and 8 chips so that the pots in 4/$8 game look 4 times bigger than a pot in $5-$10.
Now the reason that $6/$12 and $8-$16 games are less popular now is to fold. One is that the big poker boom was largley driven by tournament poker on TV which was all No Limit. So many of the players coming into poker recently came for No Limit (and many of them think limit poker isn't really poker).A proper Buy-in for $6/$12 or $8/$16 is within the range of buyins for ababy NL games ($1-$2 through $2-$5) so many of the players who come to a poker room expecting to put $400 down in the game are putting that money into a NL game. $2/$4 games on the other hand are usually populated with people who would never buy in to a game for that much money (even if they can afford it).any of the $2-$ limit players would be playing No limit if there was a 5 cent 10 cent NL game with a $40 max buy in.
So the effect is that the poker boom did not really bring in many more players who want to pla6/$12, $8/$16, or $10-$20 but the poker boom has generated more poker rooms and spread those players out. So instead of 10 players being in one room and gettinga game started, thos e10 players are in 10 different rooms and end up playing a different game.
I know that in a 2/4 Limit game, the SB is $1 and BB is $2...what are the blinds in a 3/6 and a 5/10 Limit game?
As was already stated... the more chips in a pot, the more action there is in a game...
At The Mirage (years past when I worked there) - the $20 - $40 LHE game had so much more action and pots were 4 times larger than a $10 - $20 LHE game.
A 3-chip / 6-chip game or a 4-chip / 8-chip game will generally be far more lively than a 1-chip / 2-chip game or a 2-chip / 4-chip game.
As far as odd limits like $8 - $16 - they are odd because when using $1 and $5 chips you are always putting out a mix of chips and when multiple raises ensue people actually get confused and cannot quickly figure out how much a bet and 3 raises is to call. (seriously)
But if a casino is using "odd" denomination of chips it makes it easier and the game can happen (but as already stated, NLH action has taken over once you get to a certain size game). An $8 - $16 game with $2 chips is a 4-chip / 8-chip game and would be a good action game.
I think the other draw to (small) No Limit games is that they appear cheaper to play - a $1 & $2 blind NLH game seems cheaper (because of the small blinds and small minimum bet all the way) than even a $3 & $6 LHE game.
As far as odd limits like $8 - $16 - they are odd because when using $1 and $5 chips you are always putting out a mix of chips and when multiple raises ensue people actually get confused and cannot quickly figure out how much a bet and 3 raises is to call. (seriously)
I have been very much sold on the idea that a limit game should be played as much as possible with a single denomination chip.
$4/$8 should be played with $1 chips $5 chips should be discouraged (while I wouldn't go as far as banning them completely, I would certainly not sell quantities of them to players in the game and I would encourage dealers to change out the few that trickle in)
The best $8/$16 in town in my opinion is the WYNN's game because they use $2 chips making it a 4 chip 8 chip game that plays just like a $4/$8 game.
One reaso don't like $8/$16 with red and white chips is that abet and raise have the same bnumber of chips. Through out $8 4 chips one red three white, next player throughs out 4 chips but this is a raise three red and 1 white.
obviously TI's right. the bigger games 20/40 -40/80 80/160 (especially the 40 and the 80) use the smaller chips to make the pots look bigger(and they do) and also it slows the game down a bit which can keep players there longer which increases the rake. But the bigger pots definitely have a subconscience impact on play. When I was a youngin the big games in AC were 50/100 and 75/150 100/200. which was obviously better for the players(don't think a 75 player cares about playing 5-10 higher) as the chip structure was 2-4(or 2chip 1chip for 50-100) and 3/6 chips. the game moved a whole lot faster.
On the East Coast as well the 20/40 lhe games are more than double the 10/20.
also couldn't agree more when you have 6/12 or an 8/16 game regularly you should spread it with 2 dollar chips or you could play 7.50/15 with the pink chips(2.50's) people love that and like mentioned earlier it creates a lot of big pots.
also there is hardly a 5/10 lhe game these days with the nl explosion. on the weekends there might be one and a 5/10 om8 with a kill. but borgata has 6/12(which is a weekend game now) trop has 4/8, with the taj barely getting a 5/10
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