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I have been playing the 3-6 limit game lately. I have been doing pretty well most of the time. I think it is due to soft competition most of the time. When I sit a table with better players, it can go either way. I am looking for suggestions on a good book or two for limit hold em [lower levels].
It's been around for awhile, but I think Small Stakes Hold Em by David Sklansky and Ed Miller is pretty much the Bible for Limit Poker. I think against the kind of competition you describe the information would not be out of date.
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missingflops wrote:
It's been around for awhile, but I think Small Stakes Hold Em by David Sklansky and Ed Miller is pretty much the Bible for Limit Poker. I think against the kind of competition you describe the information would not be out of date.
I'm also partial to Lee Jones's "Winning Low Limit Hold Em." It's well-organized, easy to process, and I enjoy his somewhat conversational writing style. Maybe less in depth than "SSHE," but more accessible.
While not specific to limit, Shoonmaker's "Psychology of Poker" is useful as well. It gives you a generally better appreciation for what's going on with your opponents and also helps you recognize your own motivations at the table. And most important (at least for my little pea brain) is that it helps remind you that not everybody is playing the same as you. If you're used to playing NL, it might give you a better handle on the different mindset at most low limit limit games.
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chuck_mingus wrote:
I'm also partial to Lee Jones's "Winning Low Limit Hold Em." It's well-organized, easy to process, and I enjoy his somewhat conversational writing style. Maybe less in depth than "SSHE," but more accessible.
While not specific to limit, Shoonmaker's "Psychology of Poker" is useful as well. It gives you a generally better appreciation for what's going on with your opponents and also helps you recognize your own motivations at the table. And most important (at least for my little pea brain) is that it helps remind you that not everybody is playing the same as you. If you're used to playing NL, it might give you a better handle on the different mindset at most low limit limit games.
Jones' book was the first I read on LHE. It's a decent intro, but even at 3/6 games it'll likely have you playing too passively and if you move up in limits you'll be in trouble. Lou Krieger's books are worth reading.
I personally far prefer Feeney's "Inside the Poker Mind" for a psych angle on LHE. If you like math, then King Yao's "Weighing the Odds in Holdem Poker" is good.
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missingflops wrote:
It's been around for awhile, but I think Small Stakes Hold Em by David Sklansky and Ed Miller is pretty much the Bible for Limit Poker. I think against the kind of competition you describe the information would not be out of date.
+1; this book made me a much better limit poker player, although it does take some work and some understanding of the game first. Lee Jones' book is good and an easier read, but I think Small Stakes covers a lot more ground and does it better -- though I did read Jones after I read Small Stakes a couple times, so that might not be totally fair.
If you really need a theoretical underpinning for the game, then Sklansky's Theory of Poker is a good starting point and his basic book called Hold'em Poker, while dated is still a good starting point for thinking about limit poker.
For psychology I liked both Shoonmaker's Psychology of Poker and a book called The Poker Mindset by Ian Taylor & Matthew Hilger. The latter book really helped me with tilt, which can be huge playing low stakes limit and seeing a lot of suck outs.
Dave
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Hold'em Poker for Advanced Players by Skalansky also hits on some advanced ideas.
Later on, Winning in Tough Hold'em Games (Stoxtrader) and Advanced Limit Hold'em Strategy (Tanenbaum) are also good at figuring out how people think about the game.
But using any one of these books blindly for how you play will not lead to the most success. Learning the ideas and concepts and integrating them into your game is how you become the most solid.
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STILL READING SSHE / JUST FOUND A FREE COPY ON UTORRENT / HAVE DONE A FAIR AMOUNT OF READING JUST TRYING TO IMPROVE ON MY LIMIT GAME/ GOT SOME LEAKS BUT NOT SURE WHERE/ i PLAY A FEW TIMES A MONTH AT POTAWATOMI IN MILW, WI. [3/6]/ HAVING TROUBLE CHANGING MY GAME TO FIT THE TABLE / ITS ALWAYS A DIFFERENT GAME / THINK i'M PLAYING TOO MUCH TIGHT / PASSIVE .
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wjd714 wrote:
STILL READING SSHE / JUST FOUND A FREE COPY ON UTORRENT
The dead-tree version is less than $16.50 on Amazon and the Kindle version is just $14.72. And you really gotta go steal from authors anyway?
I'd love to hear what other AVPers think of this, but the word that comes to my mind first is douchebaggery.
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