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Middle set, coordinated board, multiway action



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UNCrunbad
 Post subject: Middle set, coordinated board, multiway action
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:57 pm 
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1-3 NL at aria

Im in middle position this hand and have run my 225 buy in up to 900 in an hour due to the deck smacking me in the face repeatedly.
V1-Solid young player on the button, roughly 700 in chips, has doubled me up once when i set over setted him on a Q-9-7 rainbow flop.
V2-UTG+1, Old man, quite fishy smelling, about 300 in front of him, got 3 streets of value with the nut straight when he had only middle pair the previous hand,

V2 open limps, folds around to me and i make it 13 to go with [5c] [5d] , V1 thinks a moment, grabs a stack of 100, and then calls, blinds fold and limper comes along.
Flop is [Ad] [5h] [3h] , V2 leads for 5, i raise to 25, V1 reraises to 145, V2 tank shoves 280ish.

What is my best play here?


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NegligencePerSe
 Post subject: Re: Middle set, coordinated board, multiway action
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:07 pm 
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Ship...

Can't think of a reason not to...

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:13 pm 
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V2 leads for 5, huh. That's great. Hmmm... Fascinating spot.It feels like V1 is trying to isolate V2, which makes a draw or possibly a biggish ace (and maybe 22/44? or the joyful 33?) a decent part of their range. I would have no problem getting AI with V2 here. It's an awful lot of BBs to get it in against V1, but I really think you're ahead. Think I gulp-shove.

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Acehater
 Post subject: Re: Middle set, coordinated board, multiway action
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:35 pm 
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That looks like a flush draw to me. Maybe even [Ah] [4h] or [Ah] [2h] so he has nut flush draw and straight draw plus the straight flush draw. That is a lot of outs, but assuming you dodge the straight flush, you can boat. I have to say you have the best hand here and V1 is trying to squeeze you with a nut draw.

I think V2 could have anything from A10+ to a 2 pair hand like A5, A3. Again I think you have the best of it here and I would raise to $500. I am not scared of V1 shipping but I want him to pay for it, not just call off $140 to see the turn.


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UNCrunbad
 Post subject: Re: Middle set, coordinated board, multiway action
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:46 pm 
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Thanks for the quick feedback, i had no idea where V2 was but i was 99 percent sure he was crushed, V1 i was on the fence, possibly 6,4 of hearts or something like ace said with aces and the nut flush draw, in which case i knew the money was going in anyway but i wanted to get in ahead and if he gets there hope to boat.
I did end up shoving, V1 tanked for a solid 3 minutes and started saying "god its gross if your doing that with the 6,4 of hearts", which instantly made me feel so much more comfortable. I believe it showed through because he ended up mucking ace 3 of spades face up. V2 had ace queen of clubs...(lolwut) and the amusing part about this hand is the ace of hearts hit the turn, V1 flipped his [censored] and started telling me i got so lucky he folded, until i caught quads on the end and he mumbled nice hand. Great result, could have been better but im happy how it went down regardless.


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Dap Poker
 Post subject: Re: Middle set, coordinated board, multiway action
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:48 pm 
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I agree with Acehater, V1's line looks like a flush draw. If he was honestly considering a 3 bet preflop, then I think something like [Ah] [Kh] or [Ah] [Qh] is well in his range. If he was showboating, then he might have the 3-3. I'm not at all worried about V2.

nevermind; I see you posted right b4 I did.

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