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Re: going to vegas for 1-2 months, greatly underrolled. advice?

Postby mikek14 on Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:03 pm

Forgot to say I'm going from Feb 17-19th. rooms are really cheap now. Only $67 total for 2 nights at the Trop. Could have gone to Vegas club for $50 for 2 nights but I don't like downtown. Trop is across from Excalibur (I like the electonic tables) and across from MGM and short ride to Bill's.
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Re: going to vegas for 1-2 months, greatly underrolled. advice?

Postby b7402j on Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:04 pm

Sevencard2003 (assuming this is Tony Bigcharles),
Are you interested in a stake to a tourney?
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Re: going to vegas for 1-2 months, greatly underrolled. advice?

Postby O_B_Careful on Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:30 pm

Just read an ENTIRE thread I found after Googling this guy. Every time I think this place can't get any more bizzare, someone new pops up. It's like the whack-a-mole game at a kids pizza joint.
...these are truly the idle ramblings of a madman.
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Re: going to vegas for 1-2 months, greatly underrolled. advice?

Postby sevencard2003 on Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:51 pm

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Re: going to vegas for 1-2 months, greatly underrolled. advice?

Postby sevencard2003 on Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:54 pm

b7402j wrote:Sevencard2003 (assuming this is Tony Bigcharles),
Are you interested in a stake to a tourney?


if u mean a LIVE tourney as opposed to a online one, dont see how i can turn it down. PM me or talk on yahoo. need to coordinate it and make sure im awake. which casino?
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Re: going to vegas for 1-2 months, greatly underrolled. advice?

Postby starsky76 on Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:19 pm

Is this for real???If it is,you need some mad disipline and even then your way underolled.I might need a drink after this topic!
DO IT,DO IT!!
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Re: going to vegas for 1-2 months, greatly underrolled. advice?

Postby Pokerreg21 on Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:30 am

well your plan is very risky , your br is only 18byuins.

If you run good and play good you may have a chance, but you have to play ultra tight and get your money only in with way the best hand.

Otherwise this thread will end with.. im busto´:(


I hope that you make it, best luck.
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Re: going to vegas for 1-2 months, greatly underrolled. advice?

Postby sevencard2003 on Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:45 pm

am now at sante fe for 3 days instead of palace, and i finally won about $80 yesterday. was very lucky to win that when i started off losing $153 in the $3-6 mixed game, gave up and left, and figured id wait and play it when i could not be needing to win as much. right now i should stick to games i know really well and protecting the roll. and tomorrow i become an old man turn 40. any casinos offering birthday offers?
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Re: going to vegas for 1-2 months, greatly underrolled. advice?

Postby b7402j on Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:39 pm

sevencard2003 wrote:
b7402j wrote:Sevencard2003 (assuming this is Tony Bigcharles),
Are you interested in a stake to a tourney?


if u mean a LIVE tourney as opposed to a online one, dont see how i can turn it down. PM me or talk on yahoo. need to coordinate it and make sure im awake. which casino?


PM sent
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Re: going to vegas for 1-2 months, greatly underrolled. advice?

Postby SuitedAces on Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:45 pm

sevencard2003 wrote:am now at sante fe for 3 days instead of palace, and i finally won about $80 yesterday. was very lucky to win that when i started off losing $153 in the $3-6 mixed game, gave up and left, and figured id wait and play it when i could not be needing to win as much. right now i should stick to games i know really well and protecting the roll. and tomorrow i become an old man turn 40. any casinos offering birthday offers?


yeah I think Terribles is offering free b-day muffin with singing dealers(they sing b-days, anniversaries etc) but I heard you have to tip the singing dealers at least $10 or they will make sure the whole Vegas knows how cheapskate you are.
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Re: going to vegas for 1-2 months, greatly underrolled. advice?

Postby sevencard2003 on Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:31 am

well bad news to report and its all my own fault. i left the $1-2 NL in the santa fe when it busted $300 up and then i went out and blew it all on the machines, plus about $100 besides. now im in my room and dead tired about to sleep, after i finish reading my mails.
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Re: going to vegas for 1-2 months, greatly underrolled. advice?

Postby mauihaole on Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:38 am

No offense SevenCard2003, but some people are just not meant to be in Vegas and sad to say, but you are one of those people. You clearly have an addiction to gambling and no sense of bankroll management whatsoever. I suggest you leave Vegas and head back to Kansas. There you can play poker without the risk of blowing money on machines. You're playing these machines with money you can't afford to lose, and you'll be broke very soon. If I'm not mistaken, your roll is down to 2500 or less now. Take that back to Kansas and play poker there. Some people just aren't meant for Vegas, so bail while you still have money to your name.
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Re: going to vegas for 1-2 months, greatly underrolled. advice?

Postby O_B_Careful on Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:47 pm

This thread seeks advice, so I'll give you some.

The caveat being that almost everyone here believes that you should not attempt to stay in Vegas for 30-60 days on the cash you have at your disposal. I'll also make the leap of faith to speak for the members of the human race and say you need to, at a bare minimum, quit playing any pit games or machines.

If I were a casino, I would 86 you all together, because you are a law suit waiting to happen. And at the very least, the negative publicity surrounding your adventures is sure to smack one of these casinos in the face sooner or later. I see guys like you all over AC (much more so than Vegas), and its always the same story.

But they won't 86 you. And you can't quit. So my advice is this:

Stop playing where the locals hang out. Stop wanting people to remember your name when you walk into a poker room. Stop chasing the mixed games. Limit Hold Em poker at the low end where your bankroll forces you to play is a rock garden, and is highly unlikely to ever be profitable for you. Stop chasing after women that you can't have. And for God's sakes, stop sending money to sad cases. You are as sad or sadder than many you have tried to help in the past. You want to really help these leaches? Then get serious about making money at poker, and put together a bank roll big enough to make a difference to them and yourself.

You are in need of a "bigger score" but haven't the money to invest in the right games, and low end NLHE is where you are most likely to have lightning strike for you. Play where the tourists play. Play NLHE lower than you believe your skill level puts you. When you walk into a room, stop being the crazy hair, wierdly dressed, funky smelling maniac that wants to talk non-stop and let everyone know what a good guy you are for being taken in by another woman with a sad story. INSTEAD, try being the smooth walking, decent dressed, ok smelling, quiet guy who dropped in to try this game called poker.

You believe you know how to play, that much is obvious from your posts and the posts of others that I have read on another site. Its not my place to judge you level of competency at poker. But why not try a little experiment and see how it goes?

For the next couple of weeks, play 1-2 NLHE and buy-in for $100-$200. Use the skills you have aquired. And every time you think you need to "act the part" that you believe people who know you expect from you...do the opposite. Act like a hustler instead of a mark. Try playing a shift of 6pm to midnight. Stop chasing those freaking high hands and bad beats. Don't play in rooms that are giving you something "extra" for playing when nobody else want to play in the room. Don't try to qualify for any freerolls. ACT the part of a tourist with a little time and cash to burn. Stop pretending to be a professional poker player.

If I were you, I would be playing at MGM, Bally's, the IP, Monte Carlo, Mirage, hell...anywhere other than the big rooms, as long as they were on the strip. Find a room with a number of tables going, and don't be bashful about getting a table change if you see something you like at another table, or don't like at your own. Go to the the Vegas convention site and find out where the big meetings are being held. Carry your ass down to those rooms and hope to get in games with a bunch of guys who sat in trade show meetings all day, and decided to play in a real Vegas poker room until they have to go to sleep around 12 or 1 am.

The tone of this advice sounds a little harsh as I read it back, but you know what? It's what somebody needs to say to you. So there you have it. Write it down on your hand if you have to, but remember. PLAY THE PART OF A HUSTLER INSTEAD OF A MARK.

This story is beyond amazing to me.
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Re: going to vegas for 1-2 months, greatly underrolled. advice?

Postby Mrs. Lederer on Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:01 pm

Sevencard2003: I have read a bit about you on other sites as well as your own posts here and I must agree with O_B_Careful's post.

Keep this phone number near you and please consider using it. It is the hotline phone number for the Las Vegas Area Gamblers Anonymous.

(888) 442-2110
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Re: going to vegas for 1-2 months, greatly underrolled. advice?

Postby McDeath on Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:12 pm

dont listen to these guys! just do it!
just kidding, man. get the hell outta there… pronto!
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Re: going to vegas for 1-2 months, greatly underrolled. advice?

Postby sevencard2003 on Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:00 am

waking up right now in my room at the sante fe. i agree with alot of obcarefuls advice. id be best off playing in the good games on the strip, but some of them good games, like mirage, mgm, etc im banned at. also dont forget the great games at the nugget. sante fes $1-2 NL game isnt bad either. but yeah im avoiding $2-4 fixed games, i dont like those. seldom play them. when my room here expires, plan to book at the stratosphere or my 1 free day at the nugget. or maybe i should take my 1 free day at wynn. at least thats heavy with tourists. i would much rather no one knows me instead of people remembering me from years ago, but i spent so much time at all of them, i cant just hide and blend in. and i agree 6pm-2am would be the best times to play, but im usually around later than that.

i really shouldnt wait til the last minute to make my room reservations either. and i hate having to move rooms all the time to avoid paying for them. but i gotta use up the free offers before i begin paying. i probably wouldnt ever got them offers were it not for machines play in the past. and im still around 2800 but i need way more than that. remember i came to vegas with around $3600

and i do wish i had a good woman or friend around whod make sure i dont play any machines. and its a good idea to keep it all in the bank except for about $500 or maybe $200-300 to play with.
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Re: going to vegas for 1-2 months, greatly underrolled. advice?

Postby mauihaole on Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:06 am

Here's what you do to avoid losing more than you should for the night. Say you're going to play with 2 $100 buy-ins for the night. Only bring $200 with you to the poker room and leave whatever money you have left on you in the safe in your room. If you lose your buy-ins, you're done for the night and just go chill in your room and watch tv. Don't open that safe again til its time to play poker the next day. If you win in poker, head straight to your room and throw that money in the safe.
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Re: going to vegas for 1-2 months, greatly underrolled. advice?

Postby sevencard2003 on Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:13 am

mauihaole wrote:Here's what you do to avoid losing more than you should for the night. Say you're going to play with 2 $100 buy-ins for the night. Only bring $200 with you to the poker room and leave whatever money you have left on you in the safe in your room. If you lose your buy-ins, you're done for the night and just go chill in your room and watch tv. Don't open that safe again til its time to play poker the next day. If you win in poker, head straight to your room and throw that money in the safe.


am sure thats good advice. anyway i recovered about $90 tonite and now im in my room.
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Re: going to vegas for 1-2 months, greatly underrolled. advice?

Postby Fishwhenican on Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:58 pm

sevencard2003 wrote:
mauihaole wrote:Here's what you do to avoid losing more than you should for the night. Say you're going to play with 2 $100 buy-ins for the night. Only bring $200 with you to the poker room and leave whatever money you have left on you in the safe in your room. If you lose your buy-ins, you're done for the night and just go chill in your room and watch tv. Don't open that safe again til its time to play poker the next day. If you win in poker, head straight to your room and throw that money in the safe.


am sure thats good advice. anyway i recovered about $90 tonite and now im in my room.


Good for you man. Now follow some of the good advice you have been getting, limit the amount of cash you take with you out of your room and stay the hell away from the machines!!!!!

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Re: going to vegas for 1-2 months, greatly underrolled. advice?

Postby sevencard2003 on Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:15 pm

well i went back downstairs later, lost about $760 playing BJ while i waited for a $1-2 NL to start up since i hate $2-4 fixed and it cant be beat. great demonstration why i shouldnt have too much cash, and should be on the strip where theres always $1-2 Nl in walking distance. rolls down to $2100. checking into the stratosphere free for thurs and fri. no idea yet what ill do on saturday worried nothing will be available cheap
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