Well with it being pot limit you can go up and down pretty quick. Had a fairly new aggressive player sit down, trying to steal on the flops when he could, insta mucking when he got raised or called on the river. With my stack around 23k in the big blind (100/200), I called his raise per flop with 9-10-Q-K double suited. We had four of us see a flop of 10-J-6. I bet pot and he re-potted it. I push and he calls, showing A-A-Q-10. Curious what the percentages were right then, had two running blanks to give him the win.
That knocked me down to 4300 and I eventually busted after going all in with a nut flush draw vs a player that turned the straight. 62 total entries and I'm out in about 47th, not too happy with my performance. Headed home and debating on either staying there or heading out for an evening tournament at the WSOP, Aria, or the Horse at MGM.
I'm no Omaha player, but I think it's basically a flip on the flop when all the money gets in - V is like 52/47 (1% tie) according to cardplayer.com's Omaha equity calculator. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't getting all your money in on the flop with an overpair in PLO general considered bad?
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Generally you should call if you have a good draw (like what I had) or at least two pair and a draw.
Just busted out of the 6pm tourney at the WSOP. Mega aggressive player calls my button raise. I have pocket Queens, he has Ace-4 off suit. 3-4-5 flop. He checks I bet he shoves. I call. Turn is a Queen, river is a deuce. Gotta beat those aggressive players and not lose to the four outers to make it deep.
On a good note, it's great seeing all my old friends from road dealing.
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Well with it being pot limit you can go up and down pretty quick. Had a fairly new aggressive player sit down, trying to steal on the flops when he could, insta mucking when he got raised or called on the river. With my stack around 23k in the big blind (100/200), I called his raise per flop with 9-10-Q-K double suited. We had four of us see a flop of 10-J-6. I bet pot and he re-potted it. I push and he calls, showing A-A-Q-10. Curious what the percentages were right then, had two running blanks to give him the win.
That knocked me down to 4300 and I eventually busted after going all in with a nut flush draw vs a player that turned the straight. 62 total entries and I'm out in about 47th, not too happy with my performance. Headed home and debating on either staying there or heading out for an evening tournament at the WSOP, Aria, or the Horse at MGM.
I'm no Omaha player, but I think it's basically a flip on the flop when all the money gets in - V is like 52/47 (1% tie) according to cardplayer.com's Omaha equity calculator. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't getting all your money in on the flop with an overpair in PLO general considered bad?
Yes the villian overvalued his over pair in that spot. Without question.
Joined: Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:16 am Posts: 1613 Location: GVR dealer/floor, previously worked at TI and WSOP
Just used a calculator online after getting home, villian did have an edge, 56% to 42%. Unfortunately for me, he was somewhat new to the table and had no observations of me yet. A lot of people still find it hard to lay down overpairs, something that just baffles me in Omaha. It is so rare to win with just an high pair.
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Wow, been awhile….and I can't have the excuse of working two jobs. Turned out the possibility of working at the WSOP was a little more difficult than they were making it out to be. Initially it was told to me that I could walk in any day that I was off at GVR and volunteer to work. Sounds great, right? Well, after going thru 5 hours of orientation and getting my vest, then getting told to come back a few days after the WSOP starts, I find out they want to know exactly what two days I am working each week. Hard to do with my "Jack of all trades" position at GVR. My days off vary each week and I am not going to be asking them for special treatment after only 6 months of employment. So I parted on good terms with the manager at the WSOP, leaving the door open with them for next year. Not more than 10 minutes later I went and played my first SNG there, a cheap one ($125). Something to just get my feet wet, see if I could get lucky and consider moving up and actually playing a bracelet event. But the 125's a pretty turbo, only 1000 chips and 15 minute levels. Add in a horrible first year dealer and we saw maybe 6-7 hands every round. My first decent hand, pocket 10's in the first round, I raised to 225, had two callers, the big blind and the limper UTG. The flop of Q-3-7 missed me but got bet out by the UTG. The BB shipped after I folded and the UTG pushed. Of course they both have a Queen. A-Q vs. K-Q. The 10 on the turn hit me but of course my hand was in the muck. I eventually busted out in 4th, hardly playing anything aside from seeing a few flops with suited connectors and stealing every once in awhile. My lose was my A-Q push in my BB being called by the chip leader with A-9. 9 on the flop did me in. Sigh….
That was about a week ago. Haven't been back there yet but hear bits and pieces from friends on how it is going and the Bravo app is showing a decent amount of cash games. I hear the same horror stories of first year dealer screw ups, but also hear they really went on a hiring blitz so the need for dealers to work 6 and 7 days a week hasn't hit yet. Maybe another week from now.
The one tournament location that I have never played in is finally going to happen tomorrow. Looked up the schedule and noticed a PLO High event at the Gold Nugget for $240. While the horror stories of the dealers have been mentioned, I have yet to see it myself and hopefully it will be OK. The saying was if a dealer doesn't get hired at the WSOP then they usually deal at the Gold Nugget event. That's pretty scary to say the least. Noon event tomorrow and I'll bring my iPad so I can log on and make notes on here. I've pretty much written off putting notes on Twitter. I just have never caught on to that craze and just don't see the logic in it with Facebook and other options around. Not to mention the character limits.
Workwise, a little slower. Always is during the WSOP. But overall we are still doing better than in previous years. It was nice pushing for a Omaha high game and actually getting it going a few nights ago. I've been working close with the boss with different promo ideas to make that a regular game there, news on that sooner….or later. Change doesn't come along too fast there so I have been quite patient on the many ideas that I have given him. It's still a great job, and I love the variety of positions I cover. Deal one night, run a tournament the next, run the room another night.
Had an interesting situation 2 nights ago there. New player, young kid, sits down in the 4 seat to play 1-2 no limit. Waits till the button passes and gets dealt in. Plays a few hands and when the button moves to the 8 seat, the 10 seat gets up and cashes up prior to posting his big blind. The kid states that he will move over to that seat, and does. The dealer starts to deal out and tells him to post his big blind. The kid states that he shouldn't have to post until he has seen at least 8 free hands (??), and to deal him out instead till the button passes. The dealer stops dealing by that point and the floor gets involved. No matter how hard we tried to explain to this player that he can't move and then skip his blind he insisted that is how it is done in all the other places he plays (and he also states he is a professional poker player). Pause for a moment and think about that title playing in a 1-2 no limit game off strip…..In a huff he cashes out, proclaiming he is never playing here again and will post about this horrible experience online. While it doesn't sound like a allvegaspoker player, I'm sure this will be a blurb on 2+2 sometime soon. I hope a few bright minds will put him in his place and tell him what a stupid thought process he had going there.
Here's to big cards hitting me solid tomorrow in the PLO event and no one sucking out with their 6-7-8-9 double sooted
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Quick update to yesterday's PLO high at the Gold Nugget, sorry for lack of updates while I was playing. I forgot to charge my iPad up prior to heading over there, and hate trying to do it from my phone. The tournament had a horrible turnout, probably due to the other tournaments in the area. Venetian also had a PLO, and Binions was running a Stud 8/b also. So only 43 players showed up. Have to say I thought the setup of the tournament was very professional, most all the dealers were top notch and friendly. The start of tournament had me chipping up quick, thanks to a loose player calling with his two pair a few times vs. my nut straights or sets. His playing pretty much any 4 cards had me playing a bit cautiously, and he did start to chip up against others. I brought my starting stack of 12K up to about 16 or 17K but it trickled down after that. I really need to examine my game there. The few times I do stay either when bluffing in position or calling with not the very best of hands I was losing. I'm pretty sure I don't give off any tells, as I make sure I do the same routine each time.
Anyway, we got down to the final 2 tables and instead of raising from the button like I should of I cautiously limped, caught 2 pair on the flop and raised the small blinds bet, who called with the same two pair and the flush draw. Flush hit on the river and I was sent out.
Hope to play a few more events the next few weeks, maybe instead of actually playing games I really enjoy (Stud, Omaha, etc...), maybe I should switch to a no limit event. It bores me a bit, but I do seem to go a bit deeper into them.....
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Joined: Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:16 am Posts: 1613 Location: GVR dealer/floor, previously worked at TI and WSOP
From a slow run of poker on the weeknights we hit a rush of poker playing last night at GVR. Add to it someone a table over from where I was dealing hit the bad beat jackpot. Their flopped quads lost to a turned straight flush for a nice 30K and 20K win for them, along with $211 for everyone else playing at Stations casinos. Even after the payouts were done people stuck around and played (usually there is a max exodus after getting paid out). The spade royal is still the one to hit this weekend, holding the ace and another playing spade in your hand will get you 30K.
The floor man will be taking the night off tonight to watch the fights, so I'll be running the room. Glad the bad beat hit last night, all that paperwork and craziness they have to got thru is a bear
Was going to try and find something at Gold Nugget, Binions, or WSOP to play at tomorrow. Debating on sticking with my love for an omaha type event or going back to playing a no limit event....GN has a $240 PLO 8/B...and both Binions and GN have a no limit as well. There is also the thought to play the morning satellite at the WSOP. Make my decision later on today....
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My plans lined up to play the morning turbo satellite at the WSOP and then head over to the Gold Nugget and catch the noon PLO 8/b. Of course that changed when a date lined up for me tonight (gotta have my priorities here). So the only place I hit was the WSOP this morning. Turbo is the right word for it, only 10 minutes per level. Granted the levels are not that accelerated, but when the 3/4 of the dealers have no concept of picking up the pace or even keeping track of what's going on it slows things down. For example, we had a new dealer push in, the dealer leaving tells her that it is a dead button since that player has just gotten knocked out. The first hand, no problem, but of course then she is pushing the button too far for the next hand and the entire table is telling her no. She gets confused and we have to get the floor over, basically wasting 2 to 3 minutes of our short 10 minute blinds.
They ended up with 70 players and had 7 players receiving a $500 tourney chip and $50 each. I think there was also money for 8th. Card dead and hung in with a few double ups but eventually had to shove with KJ offsuit, got called by an equal short stack with A 8. Board missed us both and I was out in 15th. While it is not deep stack, long round poker, I enjoyed it. Will try it again sometime soon and maybe see if I can either just sell the chip or win a few more and actually consider a bracelet event.
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I know, way too long since the last post. Explanation to follow soon, but just a blurb to say I'm heading today to Play at the Wynn Classic event. Half my buy in is covered by a few friends, the other half easily covered by my win yesterday of the morning tournament at GVR. Today's event is the $340 PLO 8/B.
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